There’s one psychological growth stage common to all mankind that is rarely acknowledged by the science of psychology. It’s a rite-of-passage, if you will, a boundary that one crosses, sometimes consciously and sometimes unconsciously.
It’s the time when you watch This is Spinal Tap, find it humorous and never look at rock musicians the same way again.
Yes, you may still enjoy all the same music you did while a teenager. But when you cross this line in the sand, you no longer have the fire in the belly that drove you to put, for example, Led Zeppelin posters all over your bedroom wall. You may still think, for example, that Robert Plant is a fine looking man and perfect rock-wailing lead singer. But you also have other thoughts throughout the day. You don’t think of Robert Plant every hour like you used to, for example.
Watching my first BTS video, the South Korean seven-member male musical group, my first thought was, “They’re going to break up.”
I don’t want them to break up. But that’s what came into my head.
Thinking of the bands I used to like, the time I spent looking at their album covers while listening to their records, I know the feeling BTS evokes. Watching them, a little of that feeling returned. But having crossed that invisible line in the sand, I also know that seven young egos can only hold together for so long. Diana Ross & the Supremes were once The Supremes. Gloria Estefan – a Miami Sound Machine member. From The Jackson 5 emerged a megastar Michael Jackson. And the list goes on and on . . .
Thankfully, BTS has a wonderful fan site (https://bts.fandom.com/wiki/BTS#Members) full of information as well as birth data. For the newly acquainted, BTS is:
BTS (Hangul: 방탄소년단; RR: Bangtan Sonyeondan), also known as the Bangtan Boys, is a seven-member South Korean boy band formed in Seoul in 2013. The name became a backronym for Beyond the Scene in July 2017.
The young men in the group each have a stage-name identity and are also talented dancers, as evidenced from their many videos.
Seven horoscopes with ten planets each in 12 houses is way too much data for a full-length analysis. So we’ll keep it simple. Let’s take a look at sun/moon combinations with some generational placements and then speculate on who may go solo first, a common theme in rock history and the stuff of rock gossip. And we’ll look at some other “most likely tos.”
Most were born from 1992 – 1995, a glorious time of growth in technology and availability of information with Uranus and Neptune transiting Capricorn then Aquarius. This is the generation that is now being transformed by Pluto’s transit of Capricorn (2008-2024) and is being asked by the universe to reinvent our social fabric as Pluto moves into Aquarius in 2024. I personally look forward to it and each BTS video is a talented image of the future.
Most Likely to Leave the Band First
Because I don’t have actual time of birth, the moon can be difficult to place. If Jung Kook has moon in the late degrees of Leo, then he is my first pick to leave first.
Leo moon does not like to be ignored. It’s also not super-enthusiastic about sharing the center stage either. With natal Saturn in Aries, there may also be insecurities about not “standing out.”
Now if Jung Kook has moon in Virgo, then my next pick is j-hope. j-hope’s horoscope stands out because his bandmates have lots of mutable signs (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces) while he has sun in fixed Aquarius and moon in fixed Taurus. Currently Saturn is transiting Aquarius and Uranus transiting moon so this rebellious Aquarius with a need for security finds himself agitated and up for a fight. The fight is to let off the steam of this challenging square. j-hope may seem more serious than the other group members as well which can cause friction.
Most Likely to be Fickle in Love
Hands down this goes to Jimin. With sun in Libra and moon in Gemini, there’s tendency to fall in love often, daily. Light and fun romance is the goal of these two signs, with lots of playful intellectual stimulation. But, wait, there’s also Mars conjunct Pluto in Scorpio. That’s more like Lady Gaga’s Bad Romance so often Jimin takes others into the depths of seriousness then backs off causing confusion and very hurt feelings. There’s a “grass is greener on the other side,” feeling to the sun and moon.
Most Likely to Get Married First
I’ll say Suga because of his sensitive nature coupled with Saturn in Aquarius. He may even get married by spring of 2022 when Saturn returns to the natal position in his horoscope. As a Pisces sun and Virgo moon, he may be feeling lonely. Neptune is transiting Pisces so all Pisces will get a dose of spirituality and probably an overwhelming attraction to another. Plus that Virgo moon worries a lot so he’s probably got a list of things to do before 2022.
Most Likely to Try Weird Diets
RM has most of his chart in earth and water signs – practical and introverted. But then there’s this moon in Sagittarius which likes to take risks and explore. With sun in Virgo and Venus, Jupiter and Pluto in Scorpio, there’s a lot of discipline . . . until there isn’t.
Sagittarius moon likes to indulge so there’s a tendency to be extremely disciplined then suddenly go wild, with lots of eating and drinking. So then there would be the need to discipline again, which would bring the crazy diets.
Most Likely to Start a Business
While being in a musical group is a business, there’s also the business where you put stuff in a building and sell it or manage people’s stuff for them. V’s chart has the characteristics of a traditional business executive. Sun in Capricorn likes power and authority and moon in Aries is competitive and highly charged. Together, there’s more than a little irritability when things don’t go one’s way. But these two cardinal signs together often make things go one’s way.
V’s next move after the group may be as owner of a business. Maybe it’s still in the music industry but with Capricorn / Aries, it can be anything that provides a feeling of success.
Most Likely to Meet the Dalai Lama
Like Jung Kook’s chart, Jin’s moon could be in one of two signs – Pisces or Aries. With sun in Sagittarius, there is definitely a need to wander. If moon is in Pisces, there is a spiritual seeking. In Aries, a more competitive seeking (if they have one, I want one too – but bigger).
Even without moon Jin’s chart gives me the sense he is seeking the larger meaning of life. He asks deep questions and if moon is in Pisces, actually sticks around for the answers. I could see him seeking the company of spiritual beings including the Dalai Lama.
Four of the members have Saturn in Pisces; Suga and Jin have Saturn in Aquarius; and Jung Kook has Saturn in Aries. Saturn is currently transiting Aquarius (since late March 2020 the time when much of the world went into lockdown).
Saturn has a 29-year cycle so returns to the place it was when you were born. This Saturn “return” is considered a time when we settle down and take stock of our lives and determine what we want to do with the rest of it. Many marry at this time or settle on a specific career.
Your Saturn sign is where you feel a lack, a place you feel vulnerable. If you believe in karma, it’s a karmic debt.
Jin’s Saturn return is right around the corner – the end of April. With Saturn in Aquarius, there is a feeling of being different than the group. Suga has this placement too but will not have his return until 2022. While Suga may choose to get married at that time, Jin may embark on some new adventure, with a new group of people. He may travel to somewhere completely different from his prior travels.
Saturn in Pisces is a sensitive placement. There’s a feeling of wearing one’s nerves on the outside of the skin and feeling of spiritual barrier with others. j-hope, Jimin, RM and V all have this placement.
For j-hope, it’s tied with communication. There may be a melancholy or poetic aspect to thought and speech. For Jimin, Saturn is square Jupiter in Sagittarius and moon in Gemini. There is a tendency here to avoid sadness, to always look for fun and to discourage others from expressing unpleasant emotions. For RM, Saturn is opposite sun in Virgo and square moon in Sagittarius. RM’s back and forth between discipline and excess may have come from a stern father who wanted all work and no play so RM didn’t learn how to play in balance. For V, his five planets in ambitious Capricorn try to work hard for success so that the Saturn in Pisces feelings of not being enough do not come to light.
The youngest member, Jung Kook has Saturn in Aries, which represents a struggle for identity and dominance. Since your parents often have you when they are around 30, your parents have Saturn opposite yours which is the generational struggle. In this same say, Jung Kook’s Saturn can feel a bit oppressive to V who’s moon is in Aries and possibly Jin who’s moon may be in Aries.
j-hope is an Aquarius sun so the four with Saturn in Aquarius sometimes are oppressive to him (making rules and such) which would spark his rebelliousness (he probably always wants to do things differently). And for Suga with Pisces sun, j-hope, Jimin and RM might sometimes feel like parents to him.
See how it works? The dynamics of groups is quite intricate and this is just a taste. As with any group of people, the dynamics ebb and flow and over time relationships change and evolve. As the members of BTS experience their Saturn returns, they will take stock of their current life status and plan for the future, the future that comes after success.